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NOVEMBER 16, 2004

Present:  Chair Daley, Secretary Weiner, Parliamentarian Corbin, Interim Provost-Designate Nielsen; Senators Batra, Bernhard, Blank, Branson, Bruck, Estes, Fikry, Hooper, Kasal, Kellner, Krotee, McRae, Middleton, Miller, Moore, Robarge, R. Smith, Stein, Tetro, Warren, Wessels, Young       

Excused: Provost/Chancellor-Designate Oblinger; Chair-Elect Allen; Senators Clark, Matthews

Absent:  Senators Baynes, Bitting, Blair, Brownie, Fahmy, Fauntleroy, Hanley-Bowdoin, Johnson, Khosla, Martin, B. Smith,

Visitors:   Robert Barnhardt, Interim Chancellor; PJ Teal, Secretary of the University; Katie Perry, Senior Vice Provost; Keith Nichols, Director of News Services; Lee Fowler, Athletic Director; Phil Moses, Director ASPSA; Donn Ward, Faculty Athletics Representative

1.  Call to Order
Chair Dennis Daley called the seventh meeting of the fifty-first session of the North Carolina State University Faculty Senate to order at 3:00 p.m.

2. Welcome and Announcements
Chair Daley welcomed Senators and Guests.

Chair Daley stated that since there were no requests for the department head review to be put on hold for further Senate consideration and since he has not received any notice that the proposed new class times are a concern, he will notify the administration that no objections have been raised.

Chair Daley noted that he sent a notice out on the regulations that require international students to maintain insurance coverage while at NC State. 

The November 30 Faculty Senate Meeting will adjourn into a committee of the whole for 30 minutes to allow for a discussion on health benefits.

3. Approval of the Minutes, Meeting  No. 6, November 2, 2004
The motion to approve the minutes passed unanimously.

4. Remarks from Interim Chancellor Barnhardt
“I think the announcement of Jim Oblinger being approved as the thirteenth Chancellor of the university is an outstanding decision.  It is one of the few times when everything I suggested from a viewpoint of process was done.  The committee members came around and talked to various groups about what we would like to see in a Chancellor and my remarks were very specific.  I would like to see a Chancellor that had a lot of experience in the university.  I would prefer to have someone from a Land Grant University because I think that we have a very special mission.  I don’t understand why everybody doesn’t understand what our passion for this type of university is but I know there are some people who have difficulties relating to the land grant mission.  From my perspective I think we got everything that I had hoped for in one package.  I am also very happy with the way that the entire community of NC State has received Jim.  He is coming on board with total support of the university and I think that is a great beginning.  I have been trying to keep things afloat here and looking at the internal decisions that have to be made and playing in that environment and giving Jim the opportunity to go out and meet people that he should be meeting. 

There are some good things happening and I have had nothing to do with some of these good things.   The campaign has raised $57M since the first of July.  There are fifteen entities working on the university’s behalf.  Obviously the teams are very successful because they have been able to bring in $57M, which puts us at approximately $650M.  The feeling is that we will have absolutely no trouble at all going to a one billion dollar campaign.  The only way that you can raise a billion dollars is if the citizens believe in the university. 

We have also had a number of accreditation teams come in and a number of foundations come in for on site visits as far as research programs were concerned for faculty.  They want to see and test the level of commitment and support that the administration has for these individual programs.  Those are nice visits as far as I am concerned because it is so easy to talk about the good things that are going on here that you don’t have to worry about saying anything wrong. 

On the downside we do have a 0.75% one-time reversion going back.  I don’t know how the Provost plans to assign this but on the Chancellor side we are going to assign this to the individual Vice Chancellors so we will all take the same amount of reduction in the budgets.  That amounts to approximately $2.7M as far as the university is concerned. 

Today we found out that Bob Etheridge was going to be at JoAnn Burkholder’s lab this afternoon so we ran over there and sure enough he showed up right at 12:30p.m.  It is a great thing when you can get a congressman to come to campus.  It was not just an opportunity for JoAnn to talk about what she has been doing but an opportunity for Johnny Wynne to talk about other programs going on in CALS and for me to say a few things about the university and also to thank Mr. Etheridge for his contributions and continued support of the university as well. 

It has been a joy.  My whole time here has been a joy particularly these last months because the university is on such a roll.  We have so many things going in our favor.  It’s just fun to be here.  I thank you all. “

5. Remarks from Donn Ward, Faculty Athletics Representative (Report Attached)
The Faculty Athletics Representative reported on the academic highlights for the 2003-2004 academic year.

Donn Ward reported that they had five special admits.  That was the first year that the initial eligibility rules from the NCAA impacted athletic programs across the country.  Those initial eligibility requirements were a significant change.  The core courses went from thirteen to fourteen.  “We are told that they will increase in the future.  The NCAA fully indexed the scale between high school GPA and a qualifying score on the SAT or ACT exam.  If you have a high school GPA of 3.55, then all you would have to score on the SAT is a 400.  If on the other hand you got a 1010 on the SAT then your minimum GPA requirement would be a 2.0.

Looking at the continuing eligibility issue there were some significant changes that occurred in 2003-2004.  This is where we are starting to experience how this change is going to impact the student athletes who were initially enrolled in 2003.  In order to continue their eligibility from year to year they have to earn twenty-four semester hours by the start of the second year.  They have to earn at least eighteen hours in any given year in the two big semesters, fall or spring and they can earn their other six hours if need be in summer school.  They must earn a minimum of six hours every academic term to be eligible to compete in the next term.  This is not only for the student athletes that enrolled in 2003.  The athletes who were enrolled prior to 2003 also have this requirement.   The really big issue, I think is the requirements for progress toward degree.  This is a significant change.  Beginning in their fifth semester you have to have earned forty percent of the degree requirements toward your degree.  The old rule only specified twenty-five percent.  All of this is geared toward graduating a student athlete in a five-year period. 

In the NCAA graduation rate for the 1997 cohort we did not fair so well at NC State.  This cohort only counts those student athletes who are a) recruited and b) received some sort of athletic grant and aid.  Our six-year graduation rate for student athletes was 49% for the 1997 cohort.  The student body graduation rate for that time frame was 63%.  The NCAA six-year graduation rate for this institution’s four-year running average is at 56%.  The six-year graduation rate for men’s basketball for the 1997 cohort was 67%, for football 35% and the graduation rate for women’s basketball was 67%.  The graduation rate for student athletes, when calculated at a ten-year running average since 1988, who had both received financial aid and exhausted their eligibility is now at 86%. 

The NCAA six-year graduation rate is given since 1985 for all of our sports.  You will see that football for the 1997 cohort we are at 35%.  A number of folks have had some questions and concerns about that and we should.  I will let you know that we are not going to break 50% on graduation rate with men’s football until perhaps the 2000 cohort. Why?  One of the reasons is that a lot of members of this particular class transferred out of this institution to other institutions when the new coaching administration came in, in 2000.  I don’t know why everybody transfers, but those that do transfer often do it because they sense that there is a difference with the new coach and this difference doesn’t fit their style.   In football, in particular, we had twenty student athletes in the 1997 cohort.  The graduation rate as I indicated was 35% meaning that seven of them graduated, eight of these student athletes that were recruited in that year withdrew in good academic standing, five of those transferred to other institutions.  If you factor those out of the equation, that graduation rate would be 58%.  We still have one student athlete who is a member of that cohort that is still currently enrolled and hopefully that person will graduate, but he will graduate beyond the point that he will count toward the statistic that I mentioned.   In the 1998 cohort we are going to have only a slight increase in graduation rate in men’s football.  Again, largely for the same reason a lot of those kids transfer.  The same will be true for the 1999 cohort.  By the time 2000 gets here that will be the first class that Coach Amato and his staff recruited, we do see that there should be some significant improvement. 

On the issue of the special admits, in the fall of 2000 we had six special admits at that time.  Five of them are still here.  Some of them are doing quite well.  There is hope that all of these students will graduate.  With regard to the five special admits that were part of the fall 2003 group all are still in school and doing reasonably well.  Only one is below a 2.0 and the rest are above. 

At the end of spring in 2004 we had 136 student athletes that were on the dean’s list, 230 athletes with GPAs of 3.0 or better and the ACC has an ACC Honor Roll which means that you have a 3.0 for the entire academic year and 183 athletes were listed on that honor roll.  While I do have some not so great news with respect to graduation rates and the men’s football program there are a sizable number of our student athletes who are doing very well here at NC State.

Senator Kellner asked, “What is the nature of the work referred to that is being done to improve the graduation rate?”

Ward stated that he was referring to the work of Phil Moses’ group, the Academic Support Program for Student Athletes which is a tremendous asset to the student athletes we have here at this institution and to the coaches who recruit them. “They have a very intrusive program where they find these kids who are struggling and make sure that they show up for study halls.  They make sure that they know these kids are going to class.  They have a very active program.  Without them I would say that even the graduation rates that we are seeing right now, while we may not be as happy with them as we would like, I don’t believe would be quite at that level without that group and their active participation working with these student athletes.   They also work with student athletes who are not having academic difficulties.“

Senator Bruck wanted to know what the mean SAT score is typically over the years of incoming men’s football and basketball.

Ward stated that the institution sends an annual report to the Board of Governors.  One of the statistics that the board is interested in is the SAT scores of incoming recruits for men’s basketball as well as football.  That data statistic is also requested for Women’s basketball.  For the 2003 cohort for football the mean SAT was 892. 

Senator Bruck asked, “How do we expect a student with an 850 SAT and a grade point average of 2.3 coming out of high school to succeed at North Carolina State University?”

Ward stated that it is a challenge to answer that question.  “We do have examples of kids that have come to this institution and if they come in with the right attitude, buy into the program that Phil’s group offers we have examples of kids coming through and doing quite well and graduating with this level of achievement out of high school.  It would be a struggle for just about anyone with this entry-level background.  They will always be working hard to get the grades and credits they need to graduate.”

Senator Young stated that he had the pleasure of being a faculty mentor to the football team for one semester and he was impressed at how hard they worked and how much resource they have in terms of study halls, tutoring, computer services, etc.  This semester he was told by one of his students who was a walk-on to the football team that he is practicing twenty hours a week with the football team and does not have access to all of that academic support.  “Was I given accurate information?  Do our walk-ons have all the academic support that our scholarship players have?”

Ward stated that they do have access.  “If the student is a reasonably good student, then Phil Moses' group may not be actively seeking him out as much as they would for a identified student early on with whom they know that they are going to have a challenge. However, this program is open to any student athlete whether you are a 4.0 or you are struggling to get that 2.0, whether you are a scholarship or non-scholarship, recruited or walk-on that service is available to them.”

6. Issues of Concern
Chair Daley stated that a faculty member is concerned about the development of the clear cutting of the forest at Lake Raleigh on Centennial Campus

Chair Daley assigned the issue to the Resources and Environment Committee.

Senator Brownie submitted an issue of concern about the management of labs. 

Chair Daley stated an issue of concern about the proposed site of the Catalano Pavilion.

Chair Daley assigned the issue of concern to the Resources and Environment Committee.

7. Reports
Academic Policy Committee
Senator Bruck reported that Provost Oblinger notified the Executive Committee of the 2005, projected budget coming out of Chapel Hill by President Broad.  Much to everyone’s surprise, for the first time in the history of the University of North Carolina the budget included a proposal to provide a 25% tuition waiver for all faculty and staff members under certain guidelines within the entire UNC system.  The committee is in the process of further investigating this.  They have invited Karen Helm, the University Planner and Kathy Hart, University Treasurer to come to their meeting to answer a number of questions not the least of which what it is going to cost.  “We need to have the answer to a number of questions.  In the research that I have done there are many peer institutions that give these benefits and every one of them has a different way of doing that.  We are trying to find these things out.  In other words, just because it was proposed by President Broad’s administration does not mean it is going to happen.  Additionally if we continue to move this agenda forward, eventually it is going to lead to a report by this committee to the Senate with different options for this university going it alone.   If you have specific items that you would like added to that list of questions that I am asking our administration to find please contact me because there are a number of different contingencies that we are going to address.”

Governance Committee
Senator Krotee reported that the committee met with Rhonda Sutton and Joanne Woodard from the Office of Equal Opportunity and David Drooz from the Office of Legal Affairs last week about unlawful harassment.  One thing that came out of the meeting is the potential need for a university ombudsman to lighten their load because they are in a transition and there are certain things that can and cannot be done through their office without it being reported and becoming a legal action. 

Personnel Policy
Senator McRae stated that the committee is in the process of submitting another version of the academic tenure policy for consideration at the next meeting.

Resources and Environment
Senator Bernhard reported that Tom Kendig, Director of Transportation and Ronnie Wright, Assistant Director of Finance attended the committee meeting and plans to report   back to the Senate early next year with regards to plans for the ensuing year and for coming years. 

Faculty Assembly
Chair Daley reported that the Faculty Assembly passed a resolution on academic freedom.  Chairman Wilson assured them that the Board of Governors would be very supportive of the resolution

Liaison Reports
Senator Miller reported that the Evaluation of Teaching Committee has divided itself into three working subcommittees.  Two of which are addressing issues of evaluation of distance education courses and the adaptation of the university evaluation instrument to DE courses, and another one to look at public strategies for peer review of distance education courses.  The third subcommittee is reviewing the scholarship of teaching regulation revision. 

Senator Batra reported that he is on the GER task force.  John Ambrose would like to know what changes are needed in the GER.  He requested that any thoughts or ideas be sent to John Ambrose, March Krotee, or Subhash Batra. 

Senator Blank reported that the University Information Technology Meeting was held last Tuesday.  They are in the process of changing some equipment.  He noted that email accounts would be migrated.  A notice will be sent out indicating the time period in which that is going to happen.  Senator Blank stated that there is a considerable concern in the IT community on campus about how to meet the demands of the LITRE Program, which was a big piece of the SACS Accreditation Report.  There is a report out there that is fairly technical.  The bottom line is that the IT people on this campus are well aware of what they need to do to move into the direction that they think we need to move and they are taking council from faculty members about what it is this means for us.

8. Adjournment
Chair Daley adjourned the meeting at 4:17 p.m.

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